Thank you to this month's expert speaker, Adam Pennington, for such an interesting and educational talk on the Pole family.
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Thank you for a fabulous, fascinating talk about the Poles. Interesting family. I had wondered, with the Marquis of Exeter, Henry Pole, and the disappearance of Henry’s (Pole) son, if that also was Henry VIII way of clearing the deck for his son, who he knew was more than likely going to start his reign in a minority? Good to have some cousins gone already. I have 2 questions…. Ursula, and her husband, the son of the Duke of Buckingham, what happened to them? And secondly, when is your book coming out?
Thanks again, great talk.
Michelle t
Thanks Adam really enjoyed your talk about the Poles and enjoyed the slides with the talk and look forward to your book, more reading for me.
Really interesting talk! I have always felt pity towards Margaret Pole. I think she may have known more than she wanted to, but had seen too much in her lifetime to be careless. I really don’t believe she was a threat and just wanted to live out the rest of her days in peace and prosperity. As for her sons, they may have indeed tried to usurp the crown from Edward. We’ll never know. Very bad ending for her.
I would like to ask whether it be possible for me to communicate directly with Mr Adam Pennington not on the Pole family, but on the subject of his own Pennington family during the same Tudor period.
Specifically, I would like to know more about Mr Pennington’s namesake Adam Pennington of Boston who was described as “…. [a member] of the Royal Household…” in 1495/6 [Pat Roll 11 Henry VII part 2 m.8 (14).], and about the posts that Adam held in this capacity, together with any similarly held by his kinsman William Pennington of Hunsdon. William’s daughter Margaret Pennington was a Lady-in-Waiting to both Catherine of Aragon and Princess Mary and remained a trusted friend to Mary after her marriage to John Cooke of Gidea Park ca 1512 [McIntosh 1977 “Some New Gentry in Early Tudor Essex” & “Penningtoniania”].
The reason for my interest in this matter is that William’s elder brother John Pennington of Muncaster had married Isabel Salkeld, widow of Hugh Salkeld of Rosgill, Westmorland and daughter of John Broughton.
I am trying to confirm whether or not the John Salkeld who joined the Royal Household’s Buttery staff ca 1509 and was a personal servant to Queen Catherine by 1513 was also a grandson of Isobel and thereby a great-nephew (by marriage) of William Pennington, for if this was indeed so, then it would go a long way towards explaining how he got the job in the first place.
Many thanks for you fascination talk and insight into Lady Margaret Pole. She is considered a martyr (for her faith) in the Catholic Church as was beatified by Pope Leo XIII in 1886. She is known as Blessed Margaret Pole. There is a depiction of her ececution in the Venerable English College in Rome.
An interesting fact about Cardinal Reginald Pole he had never been ordained to the priesthood (he was a deacon). So when he returned to England to be Queen Mary’s Archbishop of Canterbury he was then ordained to the priesthood and then consecrated a bishop the following day…or thereabouts. In that period Cardinals were not necessarily ordained priests. In fact the Cardinal Secretary of State (of the Vatican) in 1847 was a deacon, not a priest.